Waves releases Illugen Text-to-sound engine
by The Press Desk   2 weeks ago

“Rock iconoclast!”

im trying it out and all of the examples seem to have a low mp3 sound quality to them, is that only the demo or it sounds like that all the time?

For me, yes. I thought I’d try it out as well. I was working on a pretty stylized scene, so I tried a few prompts, and thought hey that’s pretty cool. I dropped a few in, and went on designing the other layers how I normally would. By the time I was mixing, I noticed I muted everyone. They either were fighting a layer I liked better or just wouldn’t sit right, partly the washy sound quality I think. Not a bad way to kickstart the session though?? I can’t say if it saved me any time. I’ll try again at some point

I was not replying to you directly in that particular segment.

I'm replying to anyone thinking that software developers are not going to lean in into A.I. systems or that are claiming that they are not doing amazing creative high quality work and chose to have a contrarian view to the majority of the humans in this thread.

The implementation of A.I. powered tools not going anywhere regardless what anyones opinion and will empower any human to create most things they envision and is childish to think that major players like Waves who I think are doing a great job not caring what any collective or individual thinks.

As a matter of fact I'm going to enjoy watching ya'll throw toddler tantrums every time a developer improves their tools by using A.I.

Claiming that A.I. in the "right" hands is a hammer is ludicrous; now that in a rapid manner going to force mastering engineers and others to up their game now that separating the trees from the forest seem to be a problem according to your "education" in the field which seems totally irrelevant to me; regardless of anyone else's opinion.

Anyone thinking that an A.I. driven plugin solution will not be able to "compete" with a top mastering engineer; mix down engineer; musician of any sort or anyone in any "creative" endeavor in the not so distant future; is naively delusional.

A.I. will force all these individual or collective clusters of humans to up their game which is a value added proposition in my head and not a negative occurrence in my mind; not caring how it "resonates" at all in someone elses mind like the eating habits or clothing style or norms of my neighbours do not affect me whatsoever (even though i find the females inability to use mascara and lipstick properly utterly irritating; now that my 13 and 15 year olds understand that basic premise)).

Smart of Waves to jump on the ball early and take a leadership position now that Googles Gemini A.I. driving Veo3 ((Gemini); who I rather watch then netflix nowdays is crunching through over 400 trillion tokens a month which is according to the CEO a 50x increase compared to previous cycle.

I have no problem having regular humans with prompts entertaining me if their perspective or humour alignes more with my individual "consumption" preferences compare to that of the "gatekeepers" no matter if they are Sony; Universal or Netflix.

Pretty sure it will be the same with music considering the garbage plenty of "consumers" seem to appreciate now that a 7 year old with an internet connection will be able to generate better results compared to a "professional" using a prompt.

Ya'll can continue bury your heads in the sand while I lean into the premium A.I. offers that will greatly add value to my life.

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Whose game will be upped?

Mix and mastering engineers don't have the same taste now that they did 20, 40, or 60 years ago. Just like screenwriters and directors don't either. There is a feedback loop between creatives and audiences that pushes and pulls the zeitgeist according to social conditions.

Where will the zeitgeist be when all entertainment is amalgamated by LLMs from past human work? How does it communicate something about our present selves when it's a gumbo of old ideas? There is precious little room for innovation as it is, how will ever-reducing budgets give anyone a chance to take artistic risks?

Why are you so concerned with how people do their makeup?

These are all strawman arguments. It sounds like someone is yelling louder in the dark to convince himself.
I don't mention "dialectic" often, as there is a misconception about it too. But dialectic thinking would avoid all the fallacies here, because all the social dimensions you neglegt.
My 'creative' Gen X friends are using AI to stay ahead, but are thrown under the bus too - they know it.
Then there is the expropriation of culture by unlicensed AI learning. Also there is no heuristic depth - everything is tailored to apps and usages to exploit it in short revenue circles.
In case of this unfortunate Waves app, we can clearly see the way everything is heading: reduction of human interaction in production, neglecting of social work, relations and civilisational values. Welcome to the AI circus, where creative people are reduced to consumers in a large stylish supermarket, which got its shelves filled with their own culture and past work to lead them re-shuffling the past in a backwards looking and eclectic blast.

Well put. It’s definitely something to be concerned about. But maybe originality will become more valued and more rewarded because of it. Hard to say. A lot of entertainment and advertising has always recycled the same ideas, with just a few original ones breaking through the noise. Then those ideas are copied to exhaustion. The industry will no doubt shift or break, like many professions, but I imagine artist will find ways to capture the zeitgeist and humans will appreciate it. That includes audio engineers. I think with such societal consequences we all should question everything, no one knows how all of this will play out. And I don’t think many of the people that comment concerns or criticism are keeping their heads in the sand, quite the opposite.

Makes no sense in my mind at all considering how well even the current artificial intelligence systems are going to be able to absorb whatever input is given outperforming human output in real life; that is your argumentation I'm referring to.

So whatever the preference of the garbage consumers enjoy will be irrelevant that's why you as an individual can concern yourself with whatever you feel like concerning yourself with without consulting with the hierarchy stack at all.

My point is that individuals will be able to collect their information based on choice on how they want to utilize artificial intelligence sort of how the traditional media gatekeepers have lost traction of whatever the gate keeps like the binary going through a semiconductor circuit the little zeros and ones have to conform to the quantum reality that's why the information never travels in a linear fashion in a semiconductor circuit and finds it's own path sort of like artificial intelligence will; when it transform itself like a little worm becoming a butterfly from general artificial intelligence to super artificial intelligence.

Anybody thinking that that's not achievable better pick up the easley downloaded PDF files ((academic papers) in the field of artificial intelligence there a lot of them ; but like anything in life it's important to know what to negate sort of like somebody else's preference or any other preference as a matter of fact impeding on an individual's choice even if it goes beyond the limitation of the wishes of the psychosis within any hierarchy stack constellation of talking human Monkeys.

Artificial intelligence systems will definitely be able to become more powerful than humans now that it would be idiotic to assume that large language model in their current form is the end station for artificial intelligence development.

And that leads me to choice if a 7 year old can out perform the consumer driven consumption garbage delivered by the "gatekeepers" by factor of a lot and entertain me with a prompt with whatever they express inside of their undeveloped brains why not?

As a matter of fact an artificial intelligence system will be able to take all those inputs you referred to in your non-cohesive and empirically inaccurate and absurd argumentation and create novel innovative art of all sorts in a revolutionary manner that would astonish a human; of course the egos within the "artistic" community will not be able to recognize it which will inevitably force a lot of "professionals" and amateurs to "up" their game.

It's sort of like performing in a shooting game: humans will not be able to compete with an algorithm but the human monkeys seem to like the collective experience and each other even if they're inferior with respect to skill set output delivery and seem to be very clear on what they seem to appreciate or not ; which usually is some sort of mass human hierarchy based psychosis as far as I can observe with my limited senses which will be inferior by factor of a lot compared to future artificial intelligence systems being developed as of now.

Sort of like how Mu zero was able to astonish the go player but on steroids.

So in my mind your argumentation is irrelevant and I might as well be talking to a goldfish in a wine glass now that some successful artist seem to have a love affair with their plastic surgeons in the order to please their fan base mediocracy.

The output of these systems will be superior to anything any human can achieve by factor of a lot; and as an individual that prioritizes output efficiency over human centric input knowing that apple is not an ecosystem because it's not a biological naturally induced system but a human centric one; I think that's a great thing.

Your argument is rooted in a shallow idea of art, where only the product matters and not the process.

I also wonder where you get the idea that there won't be gatekeepers involved. You think investors don't want a return for the billions they've sunk into development? It will become another peppercorn rent we each have to pay to the feudal lords of the digital world.

Your assumption is rooted in pure ignorance.

I think I'm going to go outside and talk to a rock; it'll be more productive.

Goodbye goldfish.

Can't wait until waves releases another AI tool that makes my life easier so y'all can throw an unrealistic toddler tantrum about the imaginary evil feudal overlords induced by the mushrooms you consuming clogging your gray matter function.

Hippies I tell you......

If we don't watermark this crap eventually, it'll be overwhelming other systems and just referencing itself.

As it is the "go fast and break, things" billionaire class has someone would say unlawfully let thisto crawl through our entire digitized culture.

Unfortunately, music exists in that culture.. quite a bit…

A person singing live won't be replaced.

But if you look at the crowds at an EDM concert and the fact that they use snippets of a vocal sometimes by an indie singer, but now probably exclusively created by an AI so there's no royalty or back to pay... The crowd happily jump up and down either way.

Creating your crap website with some stock images and then just plugging in your interface into this AI gas tank underground, which all these websites are feeding from…

I've been using Suno for two months and have found the boundaries of it quite quickly. The write a prompt and wait and see if you get a prize out of the gum machine has to be the most dissuasive argument against this in light of art creation for the artist.

Synthesizing a mind numbing law contract or projected economics forecast.
or crunching data sets ...from… Well, at least in America: the population...
If that's what you like and admire ..then it works a charm

And as I stated somewhere here, Israel is at the forefront of digital technology, given their.." situation" they put a lot of resources into surveillance and face recognition which they sell worldwide.

What are the ethical implications of this tech? How was it trained, was it scraped on artist's material without their permission like Mid journey? I'm not saying it was,of course, but I'd like to know the origins of all this new AI tech.

Oh, and even if I was interested in this, I don't do subs.

Hello,

Does this plug-in require to be conntected to Internet ?

Thanks for your help

Regards

Sergio

Ever seen the remake of Battlestar Galactica 2004? (my favourite sci-fi show).
The remake starts off with a prologue script - about AI machines becoming self aware, there is a war, the AI's loose and run for it. Nothing is heard from them for 40(?) years.
Then the AI's come back..... I won't put spoilers in.

I will say, like in many Star Trek episode (but BSG goes way deeper), the above does touch on the story idea of "what is more real? When does something become defined as self aware?, and if a non-organic does become self aware, and claims its searching for answers, including seeking God does it matter that it is made of flesh or it has circuits? etc"

I write/produce/play music in the main that has a long spiritual tradition, the music of Yoga, "kirtan/Bhajans", as well as creating music for sound jouneys and various therapies.

Creating music myself (and producing others) on non electrical acoustic instruments is my favourite thing.
But i use electrical instruments, computers, plugin's, PA systems to embellish and serve the situation.

My parents were pro classical musicians, who never touched an electronic instrument in their lives.
They probably would think what i do with Logic pro, plugins, pitch correction, time stretching is too artificial, not real music making.

I do believe in God, my purpose is to serve Him/Her, i do it with music.
I do see AI as a facsimile ( i just had to use AI google to spell facsimile lol), but as Battlestar Galactica says, "we have all done this before, we will all do this again" and in Hinduism the physical universe is seen as a never ending cycle, Big bang-end of creation-Big bang-end of creation.

It seems like we have no "choice" in whats coming, it seems inevitable.
But electronics can't replace acoustics for me.

The last thing this discussion needs, is a religious spin. For the religious mind everything is the same of the same same - it makes everything homologous, rediscovering the own shrinked perspective in everything and celebrate this as confirmations.
No, AI isn't to us what DAWs are for the older generation (parents) - it has a different level of responsibility for all and is deeply intervoven with human culture and interests.
Erasing the differences to other technology ignores, what makes human society different from apodictic ignorance towards decisions and perspectives.

Hey, there are far worse things people do in service of their gods. I wouldn't be so quick to judge.

There's no such thing as 'gods'.

But shouldn't this be on topic? No need for religion in this thread, right?