Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hybrid man
β‘οΈ
I mean, I can DEFINITELY hear a difference, even just on laptop speakers.
I hate the way this video is set up, with the actual shootout bits buried under all of the talking and ads, and the narrator constantly interjecting his own opinion instead of shutting up and allowing the compressors to speak for themselves. I only skipped around to a couple of places where it looked like he was actually JUST switching between the different compressors.
But every time I got to an actual shootout bit, it sounded like exactly what I expected, based on my experience:
- The modern Urei sounded like a "pretty good" 1176. Not quite as weighty and punchy/throbbing as a vintage black panel, but like a respectable reissue/remake that generally does the 1176 "thing".
- The purple sounds like an exaggerated version of a blue stripe, leaning into the nonlinearities and grit, and like a cool 1176-inspired flavor, that is also kind of its own thing.
- The warm sounds like a generic compressor with some kind of distortion circuit added, and not something I would personally choose to use on anything I can think of.
- The KT-76 sounds like a perfectly fine, competent compressor, but not at all like an 1176, to my ears.
I wish these tests would include either an actual vintage 1176, or at least one of the more-faithful clones, like a hairball or something. The modern Urei is not, in my opinion, a "real" 1176 except in the purely formal legal sense of being made by a company that bought the branding rights and the name.
Hearing compression, and the differences between compressors, can sometimes be a bit tricky, if you're not used to applying compression to lots of different sources. A lot of times, if you match the output level, it's almost like both of them
sound the same, but
feel different.
I used to have studio interns learn to hear compression differences by having them listen to a lead vocal through a CLA-76 plugin, switching it from blue to black, with the monitor switched off or out of view, so they couldn't see which one was which, and ask them to listen to the singer's mood or emotional state, and describe how it changed between the two. 100 out of 100 times, they could pick out the difference consistently, when listening for things like heartbreak or sadness in the voice, even if they were hopeless when trying to listen for the "sound" of the compressor.
Same when I have them listen to a bass guitar, and ask them to say which one sounds like a better take/performance--all of a sudden, they have a clear and consistent preference, when they could not tell, when they trying to "hear" the sound of the compressor. Obvs the take/performance stayed the same, it's the way the compressor affects the "feel" of the timing and dynamics, making it "sound like" a better take.
I think a lot of times, maybe especially with compressors, it seems like there is this vast gulf between influencers and commenters who say things like "oh, they sound 99% the same" or "maybe this one needs a touch of EQ" versus supposed "golden ears" people or some notion that you can only hear the differences in a million-dollar room, when it's really more kind of a listening with your heart vs listening with your brain type of thing.
Like, "oh, when you pushed that button, it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up", or "when you switched out that processor, it kinda makes my groove thing feel a little less like shaking" moreso than listening for some kind of clinical difference inside your ear-holes.
Like, on the one hand, the guy in this video is correct, these compressors DO sound almost the same, as do all compressors that are competent and functional compressors. Just like all electric guitars sound like electric guitars, and all sawtooth ADSR subtractive synths sound like a sawtooth subtractive synth, and all violins sound like a violin, and so on and so on.
But on the other hand, any of those things can also sound COMPLETELY DIFFERENT even while sounding essentially EXACTLY THE SAME if what we care about is not a clinical analysis of waveforms but the emotional and psychic response and sense of connection between performer and listener.
I don't know how to describe it properly. I think "golden ears" can be a useful shorthand, but I also think it's misleading when talking about the middle-aged hitmaking producers and engineers who almost universally have objectively worse hearing than any random teenager, but who have the discernment to zero in on what matters, or something like that...