I know the feeling. Work is slow right now so I'm going nuts making patches on the BS2 and DX200.

Never been this excited for a synth before. I mean, I've been excited to get a synth before, many times. But nothing like this.

Sounds really amazing.

Can the Operator knobs and faders send out CC messages?

I hear what you’re saying, but when I look at the Digitone and the Opsix, I get the feeling that the designers were going for interfaces that offered a lot of fun real time control, over over voice count and layers. Why go up against something like a TX816 when dudes like you already have one, or something like it? They also have to consider that they’re going up against software as well, where voice count and layers are easy. These synths are aimed more at musicians who want to have more immediate access to controls in an FM synth, not someone who wants 12 DX7s.

The manual says they do. Way cool.

I think they were still debating if releasing a video with a lot of cheesy 80s music (listen from 1:22, sounds like a remix of Maniac from Flashdance or something) is good for sales figures or not.

Answer: yes, it is.

They should have offered at the very least the possibility of inverting the adsr modulation...I sincerely hope they will update this.

I think MSEGs are a turn off only to people who have never used them before, and on a synth that doesn’t have a good display. Not sure what the EG display on this one looks like, but the display looks pretty small. That’s a shame. MSEGs would have been nice on a synth like this, especially if you could see each one in relation to the other ones and the point on the graph where the MSEG was at each moment.

I bet you can do it through mod matrix.

Totally 100% agree with you. Which is why people complaining about the OPSIX for not having a multitimbral mode while at the same time praising an 8 voice synth for having one is so bizarre

ADSR could be emulated by MSEG... For Yamaha's Rate/Level MSEGs it is not straightforward, as ADSR is Time/Level, but it could be done. You could have simplified "ADSR mode" and "advanced mode" (full MSEG). Could also help with better import of DX7 patches.

But that would be another feature, and another bean, and when the bean counters come, it would be one of the first to go :(

And they decided to have only 6 encoders but full DX7 MSEG would be most convenient with 8.

The operator level adsr modulation can only be defeated by setting the operator's level to zero, and its polarity is not programmable.

In 2020, FM synths Digitone Keys, Electron Digitone, Model Cycles, they have good multitrack (and multi – timbral) good sequencers. Additionally, in the year 2020... the market is full of standalone hardware groveboxes, Akai, Roland, Electron etc…

So, yea, yet another thing that I want to mention is that people have different preferences when it comes to workflows. So, I’m not saying that what you suggest is irrelevant, but some musicians they will tell you, I don’t like that, it is uninspired…

Now, if this thing were bi timbral with 2 separate tracks step sequencer and with up to 512 steps per sequence, you could use it alongside with a Roland TR6s, and a mixer to make not only awesome live performances but and to record complete music as well having fun…

This OPSIX as it is, it’s a treasure for sound design and real time modifications and it screams that it needs a better and longer sequencer. This is why Electron they have a lot of FM synths with good sequencers available out there…

Digitone > OPSIX, and it’s a shame because in all the other aspects, beyond the sequencer the Korg OPSIX is far superior…

The Digitone is good, but I don’t like its aesthetics, while the OPSIX is a gorgeous looking synth, in my opinion.

And the sonic capabilities of the OPSIX are greater in comparison with the Digitone…

And not only that the OPSIX has a superior interface for sound design, very inspired and instant workflow.

But the sequencer sucks, wtf?

I don't give a rat's ass about the sequencer. I want to play this thing.

The Digitone only has 4 synth tracks to share across 8 voices and 4 midi tracks

The Model Cycles only has 6 tracks

If you think that is a good sequencing solution well than good for you

I don't which is why dedicated hardware sequencing is the way to go and I certainly don't want to be locked into a proprietary Elektron Ecosystem

The beauty of hardware sequencing is you are not locked into making sure all the synths and drum machines that you like sonicly also have sequencers that will allow you to use them and you don't have to worry about them playing in sync

A hardware sequencer will allow you to sequence anything from a $100 Volca to a Moog One

I never have to fret about the sequencer or lack there of any synth or drum machine and that's a great thing

Sequencers are important to you. You should check out some of the great ones on the new and used markets. I had my eye on the Squarp Pyramid until recently. Seems incredible.

I actually think the Digitone is a nifty little synth; I used to own one. The synth engine on the OPSIX is just way more interesting to me though.

The Digitone has nice FX, but I think the Korg FX are in an entirely different league, and I far prefer them. The thought of being able to do filter FM on the OPSIX with that sweet Korg analog modelled MS-20 filter sounds like a ton of fun to me.

Korg want to make their new 64 Step sequencer the centrepiece of a setup, so that’s probably why the OPSix is limited in this regard.

PLAY ME THAT SONG AND I AM SOLD

Yeah, in the end making synths is a business and there have to be concessions to make something useful a s affordable.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Again, each knob is a bean, so while it’s unfortunate, it must have been a cost and size issue. Maybe they even found that in early prototypes that people found 8 encoders too confusing.

That proves my point. But yes, from what I hear it should be possible to make a very good version of that song with the Opsix.

I wished editing was so easy back in the day with the DX-7

Your missing the point, every elektron has a low voice count(not sure 8 voices is actually that low but...) that's part of their character. The voice stealing is actually a charm with the digitone and there is a menu with multiple parameters just on how the voice stealing happens, the whole voice stealing side chain is definitely a thing with elektron. The whole point of it being multitimbral is you don't beef anything else to make a song, and elektron has a "sound" rooted from the tracker days. You only need to google digitone on youtube to see what people can do with eight voices, people have whole albums of incredible material from the box.. That's why some don't want another sequencer, the elektron one has a certain quality people like.
The digitone is more of a groovebox with a synth attached, while the opsix is more a straight synth with a simpler sequencer attached.

I understand that perfectly and since the OPSIX is not a grove box or intended to be a stand alone music production device, people complaining about the sequencer or it's lack of Multitibrality are missing the point wouldn't you agree?

You all managed to take YouTube down last night in your excitement clicking them videos...

What I like the most about the OPSIX is:

Aesthetics – it looks gorgeous while at the same time keeps the visual Fm aesthetics

Ergonomics – everything looks that it is in the right place

Favorites Section - Through its sequencer buttons it has a favorite presets section on which you can choose the OPSIX Preset programs, or your own of course. You can even switch between your programs on the fly in real time, expanding your sound pallet in your performance. You have up to 64 favorites to choose from (16 X 4 Banks)

You have instant access to the 6 operators through the sliders.

Among the other dozens of effects, the synth it has Spring and Shimmer reverb, which is awesome!

32 notes polyphony, which is more than enough

It looks like it is easy to program it

And the sound, from the demos so far I like the sounds, it looks a very capable synth for every electronic music genre…

This synth is awesome, but…

The Digitone keys is for about 1k now and it has a full featured sequencer. So, if Korg can go further successfully selling well the OPSIX for about 800 euro, with their decisions about the Spartan sequencer, then good for them.

I wish Korg all the best

Yes, but i never thought it was a competition..
People have rooms full of analog synths, but only one or two fm synths? I don't get that, i think they all sound different even though they are digital and mostly made by yamaha, they all are different enough to have a bunch..
FM is my favorite synthesis, and digitone keys my favorite synth.. But i still love this thing and want it.. They are much different.

You can bet Korg will sell way more opsixes than Elektron will ever sell Digitones.

It's not intended for the same part of market/same type of workflow. That alone is obvious.

It's not but tell that to all the people complaining about the sequencer wanting the OPSIX to be a grove box or workstation with 32 part Multitibrality and a million event 64 track sequencer

FM is my favorite also has been since I first played a DX7 in a music store way back in late 1983 or early 1984

I have currently have a room full of them. The original DX7 is by far my favorite always will be. I keep on thinking I should move away from my first love but always return to her.

I used to think back in 1985 that all I needed/wanted was a ton of DX7s, an analog poly synth or two, a Piano, and a Synclavier or Fairlight. My studio is now pretty much exactly that. Only thanks to Arturia I now have both a Fairlight and a Synclavier

I tried to like the Digitone but just couldn't. The OPSIX however will feel right at home

Whilst the Opsix looks great, FM has never been for me, and this wont change me. But is does sound & look good if you like FM.