Hi, maybe I'm missing the obvious but I can't find a demo or trial version on their website? I already created an account

Edit: doh, found it on the plugin alliance website. There's no link on the dearVR website.

Waves ARS3? Does it give you a big bottom end?

a week or so into demoing this plugin I really have no idea if I'll be doing more damage than good by using it, but I simply can not listen through headphones without it on anymore. The brain is funny.

PA £50 voucher code runs out tomorrow: 2020-11-50-FFCRE

I'm a heavy headphone user, and I gotta say this takes the experience to another level. For some context, I am also using Sonarworks for calibration..

My personal favorite room (and it seems this is a trend among other users) is Mix Room B. Ambience and focus have been tweaked to taste.

The sound coming out of this is incredibly useful for working. Like, it's a joy to mix with this, and I've tried a couple others that just feel like carrying a weight due to the problems they introduce in your monitoring. Transients response is good, stereo imaging is on another level, but again, surprisingly natural to the point where your ears will adjust without too much hassle.

Now an interesting thing: Most if not all monitoring systems you can imagine need you to put your ears and brain into it for some time to develop a sense of them and how they translate. Getting to know this one has been a breeze, and the project I'm working on translated very well to other systems. Not 100%, but I'm confident that with more time. Into it, ears will adapt and give even better results.

So far, all I've done is praise, but I just can not do it. These guys have made something remarkable.

If I had to name a con about it, it would be about workflow. Ambience and Focus sliders are great to tweak the rooms, but not having indepent Amb/Focus settings for each room is bad. I would love having the option to use different combinations (and maintain them) according to each space I want to use.

Nothing more to add. Much love.

Ps. Have you devs considered making some brief videos showcasing the surround/atmos workflow on headphones? That would be killer.

I personally think the ARS3 gets a lot of unwarranted negative reviews especially considering that they Waves to a certain extent pioneered the speaker simulation part of things.

I see this headphone systems just like getting a pair of new monitors; regardless of specs or a level of mixing expertise they are going to require certain learning curve; I personally found ARS3 extremely useful within this context and still use it and get it to translate in a surprisingly accurate manner (as a person with Miami roots; yes; I can get the low end to translate with ARS3).

I'm a big fan of realphones. This particular solution is probably another great alternative within this rapidly changing space.

You got to give it to Slate; regardless of the price point and the headphone build as well as the comfort issues some people are experiencing for riding the wave while further ********izing the ability of anyone being able to get into mixing at an extremely reasonable price point with his teams solution.

Like I express previously I want to see the Waves counter punch; as they currently are tuning in to their customers needs and have the a&r budget to take things to a different level if they want to in my opinion.

Like anything in life these solutions are only as good as the talent and the set of ears behind the keyboard/controller; nothing more nothing less.

Edited.

I was honestly just making a bad juvenile joke about the abbreviation which equates to Arse, i wonder ho Waves didn't pick that up in the pitch meetings lol. I like their stuff, just not a fan of the WUPS system, i'd rather just have a perpetual license for plugins i buy and this often factors in to my buying decisions unless it's something pretty unique like NX was at time.

I quite like the idea of VSX though, it's like Ref 4 with calibrated headphones and Dear Reality VR combined but it's a fairly significant investment without a means to demo, however we can at least try things like Waves and Dear VR etc.

You do get a perpetual license. You only need WUP if you want to upgrade to the latest version (like paying to upgrade from Ableton Live 10 to 11). And even then, you can not have WUP for years and then just pay the subscription when you do want to upgrade versions.

Any more comparisons between this and Realphones? Slate VSX is not on the cards for now.

This would mess up the HP setup. It's correct, SW should be last in your monitoring chain, except you have an additional software for headphone like Can Opener or the excellent Raising Jake's Studio 2Can tool. Although GHZ claims. If you're using SW too, it won't matter where in the chain you put their plugin.

I'm not sure if this VR plugin really is needed for simple opening up (decompressing and space emulating) your stereo HP path. It doesn't seem to be its main purpose.

I tried the demo when VR Monitor came out and put it on my list to pick up when it was sub $30 as I never pay full price for Plugin Alliance plugins anymore because:

1. It really stings when a plugin you paid over $100 for eventually sells for $5 - $30 some time later. Yes I bought Townhouse for $5 some time back by waiting patiently. Not only that there goes any resale value too.

2. Imagine paying $300 for a plugin only to later have a bug surface that never gets fixed and that renders it unusable. Has happened with quite a few.

I'm noticing because PA doesn't offer the lowest price at launch like Waves and others do I end up playing the waiting game but more often than not by the time it is on sale for that magic sub $30 I have found something else or lost interest. I imagine I am not alone here. I think they would make more money just selling everything for $29 at launch like Waves do. It's obviously working for Waves as they've been doing it a long time now.

I have recently purchased Sienna and CLA Nx and will likely not need to purchase this one now. Again I only mention this as a prompt to PA to consider best price at launch pricing in order to stay competitive.

I demoed VR yesterday. Sounds fake to me as soon you start tweaking the experience and focus sliders. They best stay at full left position. I think the positioning preset is okay. But compared to Raising Jakes Studio software it doesn't make it.

The room simulations are a nice idea but they sound nothing like car or club system. The implemented effects they use to emulate other spaces are completely over the top exaggerated.

It may perhaps be a good software for surround mixing. But for 2 channel HP monitoring there are far better solutions imo. Save the money.

Last update is huge and implements new feature - correction profiles for popular hp models!
It was logical way to upgrade monitor plugin , as it is meant to mix on hp. And without correction was kinda halfbacked.

Now questions are - which wighted curve where used and folks, how is your results with this update?

Just demo/testing this as an option for the “any plugin for $30” current P.A sale.. i have a few waves headphone plugins and i notice this sounds quite Different compared to the waves, somewhat darker is my first reaction.. i’m using audio technica m-50x phones.. they sound nice to work in with dear vr monitor but was just concerned it sounds so different to the waves ones

Why aren't the other mix environments showing up in this plugin. I can only use binaural and (2ch) . Is there something I need to do with my computers sound software? I was hoping to see all the virtual speakers on the screen like the demo videos ?

I am sure you bought it, if you don't know that it is not for upmixing but for monitoring all kind of channel layouts over normal headphones...

You need to insert it on the (surround) master and then you can choose the appropriate speaker layout you want rendered for headphone monitoring.

I'm a bit confused, to mix a movie for cinema in 5.1, should I select ' Film ' or ' ITU ' ? I'm using Pro tools 2023.6.

I imported a movie inside Pro tools that I success to listen in ' ITU ', but when I select ' Film ', it sounds off. ( I guess the routing should be different for ' film ' ?)

In the manual of DearVR Monitor it's written ' In Pro Tools 2020.11 there was an internal change, which requires MONITOR’s ITU setup. '

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