Products may move tiers as a side effect of this situation, however as MOTU has been unable to produce a large fraction of their product portfolio for more than a year, I suspect this was a business survival move, and USB3 will be fine for most scenarios.

I’m curious on AVB - my life is far more on the pro audio/live side than the studio. Dante rules the live world. It is unclear to me if AVB is a growing technology or will forever be a niche product that may go the way of mLAN.

I'm guessing the AVB/network stuff was somehow handled by the TB controller, hence no TB, no AVB.

The 828 was always a bit of an odd ball. Its got the AVB and TB stuff the 'pro' lineup does, but its been advertised like its not part of the actual 'Pro Audio' lineup for some reason. Its like its the little step brother they wont let come and play with the big kids, but the thing has been a rock solid, killer interface all the way back to the first release (despite the original missing some features the later ones got).

Does the ES use the same installer the rest of the AVB units do? I still have to get the 'other' installer that still includes the firewire interfaces for my 828x..

Pretty sure... update dates are the same across the AVB line.

Ere MOTU - fix Gracyface's interface! What are you hiding?